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Brit 14 yrs resident but not allowed to apply for nationality

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I went to the commune today to ask about Belgian nationality and was told that, despite my having been here 14 years, I didn't qualify yet as I was only on my first "E+" residence card (all my previous ones were not, apparently, E+) and needed to be on my second (which I will get in c 15 months' time) before they could enter me in the system. However, all the literature I've read just says you have to have been here for seven years, which I qualify for twice over! They also said they doubted my years here could count as I've always paid UK income tax as a posted crown servant (my employer's choice, not mine) but I know others have been advised differently on this point by their (different) communes. Any thoughts as to whether I've been advised wrongly and how to break the impasse? Thanks!

J

Which commune?

As a crown servant, you are still officially "resident" in the UK. That is where you pay income tax. So you'll have a tough one proving "economic" integration without a Belgian tax record.

Jul 4, 2016 19:51
NethenBob

I thought being married to a Belgian counted as integrating really well but having recently been down the commune in search of the same thing it appears that it is your taxes they're after and they start counting from the issue date of your E+. So, like you, I'll have to wait.

Jul 4, 2016 20:44
Mikek1300gt

Funny. Those who evade/avoid Belgian taxes for years on end, usually while singing the praises of Belgium, now whine about not being able to have Belgian citizenship on demand.

Jul 4, 2016 22:05
Praxis

Did I whine about Belgium? No, I asked for practical advice as I know I'm being treated differently from other people in exactly the same situation. I never claimed I was in the right and, for the record, I've proposed to go on Belgian tax as I do believe I should be contributing here but my employer wouldn't agree till now - even though I was always clear I was prepared to take the financial hit myself. But thanks, some of you, for the snap judgements and total lack of practical advice.

Jul 5, 2016 12:50
dimvla

This guide has relevant information about the visa processes in the UK. Just in case, you still need them!

https://blog.movinhand.com/moving-to-the-uk#visas

Jul 5, 2016 13:35
J

> I've proposed to go on Belgian tax
You should not have the choice. If you're legally paying tax in the UK, it's because you are legally tax resident in the UK, and it is a condition of your job. You cannot chose where you pay tax.

If you are sure that you can, then report the bastards to the Belgian tax authorities.

Jul 5, 2016 13:52
Praxis

That would normally be the case, yes, but there is an exemption for public authorities. They can choose to exploit this exemption but are not obliged to. I personally wanted to go on Belgian tax long ago as offering me more security here, even though a much lower take-home wage. But I can't oblige my category of employer to agree. They're not bastards, they're very nice generally, and there is nothing to report.

Jul 5, 2016 14:02
CC_R

Sometimes you get a different reply from different person in commune worth asking at differ t time of day

Jul 8, 2016 23:48
mik123

The commune advised you correctly. All Belgian residents working for the EU, NATO, UN, diplomatic services from all over the world, etc. do not qualify as they do not pay income taxes to Belgium and in the majority of the cases have special ID cards which do not qualify for permanent residence. This has been confirmed by a number of communes.

Obtaining nationality on the basis of a marriage to a Belgian is another thing. They have strict requirements there too.

Jul 16, 2016 11:41